We’re already used to the kind of logic used by Catholics against condoms. The CBCP has called it worse than corruption. The Vatican has compared it to the Holocaust. But I can’t help but be surprised whenever they come up with something new. Alonzo Tan, head organizer of the recent anti-condom demonstrations around the country had this epiphany:
We have to admit that using condoms is equal to legalizing free sex.
What the faith? So free sex is illegal? Either husbands are now paying their wives (with jewelry?) or Tan considers marriage payment enough.
Or maybe free sex used to be illegal — until it was legalized when people started using condoms. So once people stop using condoms, free sex will be illegal again.
Perhaps he was referring to prostitution, which is of course, not free. So he meant to say something like this:
We have to admit that promoting condom use is like legalizing prostitution.
But this contention is debatable — it actually makes sense. And since we know these anti-condom nuts never make sense, it’s probably not what he meant.
1. free sex + no condoms + some natural fun = unwanted children + misery + possibility of STD…LEGACY = increasing population – to triple in next 3 decades + poverty + soaring deprivation.
2. free sex + condoms + some natural fun = no unwanted children + good family life + no STD …. legacy = stablilized population + less deprivation = longer happy life
The certainty is the pope won't be using a condom, nor having any kids, or having any fun or free sex and he won't be worrying about poverty or food for 240 million people but will carry on telling people that God will provide.- Oh yes there won't be any money worries FOR HIM – the RC CHURCH HAS PLENTY.
In the bible it says that anyone engaging in fornication had to be stoned to death – what a load of cock! Move on!
by free sex he means free from the consequences of the sexual act. edwinic, here is a link to understand the Church's position.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encycli…
edwinic, i hope this helps.
" Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection." -Humanae Vitae
You forget that it's not only the man who benefits from contraceptives, but also the woman. The church tries to make all women out to be virginal Marys with no interest in sex, fit only to play the gender role of taking care of children at home. Fuck that.
This Moral Law the church is fond of conduring seeks to impose "consequences" on women who choose not to submit to their stereotype of the virgin mary, so that she is not "[reduced] to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of [men's] desires", never mind what the woman wants, or that the sex is consensual.
According to the church, every woman who doesn't submit to them is a slut and needs to suffer the consequences.
"The church tries to make all women out to be virginal Marys with no interest in sex, fit only to play the gender role of taking care of children at home. Fuck that."
Wrong. The Church defends the dignity of every human being and in this case particularly that of women. Every human being, man or woman, has a calling, a purpose that measures up to their dignity. man or woman, be it joining the workforce or taking care of children. all are equal in highest of regards.
what is so wrong with taking care of children anyway, isnt it such a noble calling, should a woman chose not to join the workforce?
@reynor:
1. What is the basis of this 'moral law'?
2. What is the basis of this statement: "…a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires…"
1. based "on the principles of the moral teaching on marriage —a teaching which is based on the natural law as illuminated and enriched by divine Revelation."
2. i do not know which of the many basis was exactly in his mind when he wrote the statement. maybe a combination of studies, statistics, personal experiences, and/or the fact that it is a very common and universal knowledge.
the state of morality not only in the philippines but europe and u.s. in particular confirms the statement. it would be an intentional blinded gaze to miss the connection between engaging in a sexual act while disregarding the other person's fertility and the danger of forgetting "the reverence due to a woman."
Thanks, Reynor. By the way, it was these comments of yours that inspired me to write Should There Be An Absolute Moral Standard? <a href="http://(https://filipinofreethinkers.org/2010/04/11/should-there-be-an-absolute-moral-standard/)” target=”_blank”>(https://filipinofreethinkers.org/2010/04/11/should-there-be-an-absolute-moral-standard/) and it was in that article where I tackled this 'morality' of yours.
why do you have to legalize something free anyway? eh free na nga siya eh… so?
what is the real reason by the catholic church? does anyone know?
by free sex he means free from the consequences of and responsibilities that goes with the sexual act.
Free SEX!!! WHohoo!!!
Take note – it's not just "promoting" condom use but the mere use of condoms that is tantamount to legalizing free sex. Condoms apparently are the new source of legislative authority in this country.
Where have I seen this argument before…Ah yes!
"Reproductive Health and STD prevention = promiscuity"
Sex, sex, sex! Is that all the church thinks about now?
what the?! then i'll buy boxes of those LOL
if it were guaranteed i just might fall in line for a box myself….
I wonder what they'll say next.
I think they mean premarital sex but its strange to call it free sex. It looks like its coming down again to sex must always have the chance of babies. Which makes these people unromantic in a way.