Amateur (or should I say “immature) and defenders of certain Christian cults have a peculiar way of confronting the issues posted by atheists. Instead of proving atheism as an irrational position, they cater more on emotions and rely mostly on insults. Maybe they think that by doing those things atheism will just go away.
After their “sugo” posted two articles to confront his problems toward atheism, which failed miserably to prove his points, it’s the members (suckers) time to salvage what their “sugo” have failed to accomplish.
Meet josepherdon, a typical guy who fits the profile of a fanatic. To save his “sugo” for further embarrassment, he created a “blog” to discredit Filipino freethinkers and non-believers.
It’s quite obvious.The intellects talk about ideas while dull minds castigate people, which remind me of Philippine celebrity gossips in sleazy tabloids. Anyway, since this dullard is a master of abusive, profane and obscene slanders, it also reflects his state of mind.
I wasn’t planning to give any critique to this dolt’s article (that’s why it took a year or so before I’ve answered his rants), but as they say, “Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”.
Excuse me my dear readers if I didn’t gave any link to his blog. You see, I don’t intend to give him some free exchange link.
I understand this pathetic jerk for making his accusations and insults. Remember, he wanted desperately to please his cult master. Charles “Tex” Watson, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel and Larry Layton have already done the same and look what it resulted so far.
You won’t really learn anything on something that was written from sheer hate. That’s a fact! So I am certain that I will not find even a morsel of enlightenment in his posts. But at least I’m offering the blogging world my free service by personally correcting some of josepherdon’s deliberate misinformation.
Ignorance in the Meaning of Religion
Atheism is a religion. Atheism requires faith. Atheism also requires a strong conviction.
Atheists deny that Atheism is a religion but it is clearly being displayed by Atheists in different Religious forums that Atheism is indeed their religion.
So he still define atheism as a religion. That’s means josepherdon still doesn’t even understand what religion means. Religion is suppose to be the “ultimate concern on our life”. Now, atheism is not a religion since it’s not saying anything that is ultimate regarding concerns on someone’s life. The rule is quite simple; atheism is about not believing in a supernatural being which people calls god or gods.
Let us continue…
Ignorance in the Meaning of “Faith”.
Most of the Atheists believes that their existence was not based on Creation. They strongly opposed it.Christians have faith. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,the evidence of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1 KJV)
Faith to things hoped for and the things that not seen.
Atheists also have faith. Atheists also believe in things that are not seen. Atheists also believe in things that are not yet scientifically proven.
Aw….I’m too tired of explaining faith in my blog. Now let see…if I don’t believe in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy, is that faith @ Mr. Joseph Perdon. Go figure it out…or maybe too much heavy metal rock music banging or squeeky anime on your brains eh?
Please naman po, tutal 30 years old na po kayo, eh pakilawakan po ng konti ang pang-unawa mo po.
I have this inkling that josepherdon doesn’t have any science background in his studies. Whether he made it on college or not – well, it seems he was not really been exposed to a lot of science subject, especially in biology and physics ( o baka naman natutulog sa library).
Now here’s some samples:
Ignorance in the Theory of Evolution
Missing Links in Theory of Evolution.
These links are yet to be found.No Scientific evidences of their existence.They believe that the link exists out there, it’s just they cannot find them.They treats Theory of Evolution as their doctrine of faithin spite of growing number of scientists are abandoning the theory.
Also considering the great minds of the science communityDID NOT even believed that the humanity came from apes. Sadly, Atheists are taking the Theory of Evolution really seriously.
What missing link? Evolutionist now adays are not looking to any “missing links”. My gulay naman @ Mr. Perdon, you’re so 1880’s hahaha!
Maybe you’re talking about transitional fossils? The term “missing link” po eh ginagamit ng mga taong naniniwala sa tinatawag na the great chain of being, a pre-evolutionary concept now abandoned. Transitional fossils are the fossils of transitional forms of life representing an evolutionary bridge between two recognized groups and I’m proud to say that the discoveries of these trasitional fossils have just proved Darwin’s theory is correct.
We now have hundreds or thousand transitional fossils available. Mr. Joseph Perdon, year 2010 na po tayo. There are many example of transitional fossils and all you have to do is to search the Internet (Remember, Google is your friend. Maybe you should use it to do some worth while research instead of looking for heavy metal bands and Japanese anime.).
Now you won’t find “great minds” saying that humans came from apes @ josepherdon. Ganito po yan, apes and humans comes from a common ancestor. Evolution doesn’t say that monkeys became human. It just say that homonids, simians and prosimians came from a common lineage. Great minds already knows the process and it seems that idea that monkeys or ape became humans only came from you and your “sugo’s” mind…which I don’t think to be great.
Now it’s your turn. maybe you can show as an evidence that human came from Adam and Eve for a change @ Mr. Joseph Perdon AKA josepherdon.
Ignorance in Cosmology
Missing Matter and Energy in Big Bang Theory.
There are still a lot of questions in the Big Bang Theory that needs to be answered.But still, Atheists believe them and holds the theory as true. A lot of things in the Big Bang Theory still needs scientific evidences. Like the mystery of the Dark Matter and Dark Energy.
“Every textbook in the planet earth,says that the universe is made out of atoms and sub-atomic particles.Well, all those textbooks are wrong”–theoretical physicist, Michio Kaku
Quote mining eh? OK let see…Dr. Michio Kaku is an American theoretical physicist specializing in string field theory. Do you know what is string field theory? String Field theory…wait…I thought you don’t believe in scientific theories? If you don’t believe in scientific theories they why are you quoting a theoretical physicist? Are you contradicting yourself @ Mr. Perdon? Nasa Bible ba ang String field theory?
Anyway, if you have some idea on what quantum physics is…well you will understand what the String Field Theory is all about. It is like this…it says that the most smallest thing in the universe (quarks, atoms, etc) and the vastness of the very large universe is connected like a string in a musical instrument. That’s String Field Theory in a nutshell for you @ josepherdon. Naiintidihan mo ba? Obviously you can’t understand what I’m talking about.
You know why?
Because you can’t even tell the difference between Big Bang and Dark Matter.
Combined, Dark Matter and Dark Energy make up 96% of the universe.(That’s a VERY BIG percentage for something you don’t have a scientific evidence)The problem is, Atheists have faith about these things.(96% of the Universe [r.e.bigbang theory] is not proven scientifically)
Science has do not directly proven the existence of Dark Matter.They are still guessing about what the Dark Matter and Dark Energy really are.
By the way, they say that the Dark Matter is an invisible matter. Yes, believing Big Bang Theory requires faith.Faith about those unanswered questions and mysteries about the universe(e.g. Dark Energy and Dark Matter)
Are you talking about the candy bar or the sitcom that was created by Chuck Lorre and Bill Prady?
So what does Dark Matter has to do with the Big Bang? For your information, dark matter is the large invisible matter that composed most of the universe. The term “dark matter” was coined by Fritz Zwicky who discovered evidence for missing mass in galaxies in the 1930s.
Dark Matter is matter that is inferred to exist from gravitational effects on visible matter and background radiation, but is undetectable by emitted or scattered electromagnetic radiation and it is more important on the issue concerning state-of-the-art modeling of structure formation and galaxy evolution, and has measurable effects on the anisotropies observed in the cosmic microwave background.
So where’s the issue concerning the Big Bang?
Like The Theory of Evolution,Growing number of Scientists already abandoned the Big Bang theory just like the well-known scientists that believe that there is a God. If the scientific evidences about Big Bang Theory and Theory Of Evolution are really that great, How come that there are scientists have religion and believes in God? These Atheists are just hiding in the surface of science books which actually Scientists have already given up reading.
Like who? Can you please name names @ josepherdon.
Let see…according to the studies conducted by sociologist Elaine Howard Ecklund, 38 persent of natural scientist doesn’t believe in God. In Edward J. Larson and Larry Witham studies they discovered that disbelief in God and immortality among NAS biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers. (See: Victor Stenger’s excellent Has Science Found God? for more details)
Being an Atheist does not make you more intelligent than others
Ah so that’s his problem…Atheists appear more intelligent than him and his “sugo”. So that’s why he’s bitching in the World Wide Web.
Mr. Joseph Perdon. It’s not that atheist like me is more intelligent…nope. We just use our “coconut” more that you used yours. Remember, your mind is like a parachute, it is more useful when it is open.
Hmmmmm…I think josepherdon still has a lot to say…
I have talked, discuss and even debated with some self-centered Atheistang Pinoy and believe me, papansin lang sila. Tinatawag din nila ang mga sarili nila na THINKING PINOYS. As if, naman na sila lang ang nagiisip. They are just people wanting to be different from others. Oo nga naman, karamihan ng mga pinoy ay may religion at naniniwala sa Dios, kapag hindi ka nga naman naniwala sa Dios, instant attention nga naman yun. Pa-kontra-bida effect, pa-others, parang EMO, or talagang Pinoy EMO na nga talaga sila. At kapag naiipit na sila sa mga dahilan nila in denying GOD, they will demand respect. Ay teka,teka, magpapatawa pala muna sila, tapos aasarin ka. Kapag na-realize nilang hindi ka mabilis maasar or bumabalik na sa kanila yung mga pang-aasar nila, tsaka sila hihingi ng respeto sa paniniwala. Kung kakausapin mo sila ng masinsinan at napansin nilang may point ka, they will simply walk away at sasabihin nonsense makipag-usap sayo. “I am more intelligent than you”. Feeling of superiority from others. Pride.Yes, may pride nga ang mga Pinoy EMOs este Pinoy Atheists.
You see, after nilang ipagmalaki ang paniniwala nila, pagkatuwaan ang mga naniniwala sa Dios at naiipit na sila sa takbo ng utak nila, tsaka sila hihingi ng respeto. Believe me, iyan po ang pattern ng usapan ng mga Christians at Atheistang Pinoy. Kahit mapa-saan man yang forum, Friendster or else, they will try to impress you first with their different way of thinking, carabao-english and then asking for respect of their beliefs. Emong-emo di ba
Kakaunti lang naman ang mga Pinoy Atheists, este Freethinkers pala, este Pinoy EMOs pala.Kukunti lang silang naniniwala masyado sa sarili nila eh.Tinanong ko dati yung mga nakausap ko,Willing ba kayong ituro sa mga anak ninyo ang paniniwalang Atheista?Anong klaseng values ang ituturo ninyo sa mga anak ninyo?Willing ba kayong i-share sa mga kabataan at ilayo sa Dios ang mga kabataan?Anong klaseng sosyodad ang handa ninyong i-offer sa mga kababayan ninyo?Sosyodad na hindi naniniwala sa Dios?
Wala ka namang kabutihang mapapala sa pagiging atheista eh. Takbo ng buhay mo wala. Baka nga mayaman ka, baka nga may maganda kang trabaho pero after that wala na. Ang pagtulong sa kapwa tao ng mga atheista is pakitang tao lang, plastic. Bakit? Kung wala ngang Dios, ano ngayon ang difference ng paggawa ng mabuti sa paggawa ng masama? Kung mamamatay kang isang atheista na magnanakaw, pumapatay ng tao, o rapist, may difference ba?
Kung mamamatay kang isang atheista na feeling proud sa sarili?There’s no difference, walang LIFE AFTER DEATH eh.Logic lang naman ang kailangan eh, which is sad to say na wala ang mga atheista.
With the slow rise of Scientology wannabes, Atheists are endangered species.Actually, habang kumakaunti sila, lalong lalaki ulo ng mga yan. Feeling elite.Pa-others lang talaga. Feeling important. Feeling genio.The Big Bang Theory + Theory of Evolution = Existence of Atheists
So in the following statement that was written in the tagalog language (maybe because josepherdon ran out of English words…) he just started spilling his own viscera. Hmmmm….sa makatuwid eh sinuka na nya ang talagang sinisintir nya (He just vomited out his issues).
It’s quite obvious (base on his seethe) that he was crushed on a debate. We can perceive that on his writings. Now what happened here is that when this guy ran out of arguments, he started spewing venom.
He had this feeling (which really bothers him) that atheists are more superior in knowledge, ideas and arguments than his “sugo” and himself. Naturally the guy was hurt and he’s just licking his would like a dog and well…sour-graping.
Mr. Joseph Perdon AKA josepherdon, here’s my advice to you. If you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you don’t have any logical arguments against atheism, then don’t debate. Also don’t dwell too much on fantasies. Please let us at least have a little honesty in our part – you never even tried facing us for a debate, so how can you defeat us? Seriously, you never posted any comment in the Filipino Freethinker Website and forum; you never posted any comment on my blog and even on my shout box. You don’t have any posts on the Pinoy Atheist Group in Friendster, Multiply and Facebook. Are you a phony just like your “sugo”?
Come on…give us the real deal here.
And what do the EMO and the Scientologist have to do with your beatings @ josepherdon? Bakit, wag mo naming sabihin sa akin na natalo ka ng EMO at ng isang scientologist sa debate?
Life after death? Philanthropy? My goodness is this a special pleading? Mr. Joseph Perdon, even without “dios” humans can still be good. Look at me; I can still do good things even if I don’t expect any life after death in heaven. Kaya mo ba yan o baka naman kaya ka gumagawa ng mabuti eh para mapunta ka sa langit?
Look, I know of a story of a man who believes in a “dios” and his followers claims he is a walking Bible encyclopedia yet still manage to raped a guy. Think about it.
Now we non-believers don’t believe in brainwashing and “indoctrination”. We don’t teach something, but strongly encouraged not to question or critically examine what you’ve been taught.
Diba you have indoctrination in your cult…este coordination centers pala @ josepherdon?
Ew….How repulsive…parang may sapilitang ipinapasok sa ulo mo. Only cults do that @ josepherdon.
In the issue of respect…well respect is earned @ josepherdon and it seems you and your “sugo” still have to work harder to attain it.
Oh and another thing, atheism is different with Scientology…wait a minute…don’t tell me you don’t know what Scientology is? Man…(lol)…Scientology is a religion that was created by L. Ron Hubbard that teaches people are immortal spiritual beings who have forgotten their true nature. Maybe you think that Scientology are people that worshipped science…hahahaha! Gosh, your lack of knowledge disturbs me. Mr. Joseph Perdon, John Travolta and Tom Cruise don’t worship science.
So instead of bitching here in the Internet and exposing your dirty underwear, why not work on your arguments and start focusing in reality. I would love to invite you on one of our meet-ups if you want. You could be one of our “special guess”.
Also, before you engage a debate with any member of the Filipino Freethinker or an atheist like me, please review the following subjects: Philosophy (especially logic), science, religion and in your case English Grammar. Review your subject-verb agreement.
And please: THINK FIRST BEFORE YOU WRITE!
Ay my papaya…as they say, to an ignoramus nothing is impossible.
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I should hav say 40yrs of exodus fr my latter post..Anyway,pls comment on my post..i was fascinated in the remarkable achievemnts particularly string theory eventualy M theory now, but also on the other hand i believed that i felt a soul was swept away in me when i learned that these bizare things are not enstranged in the Bible..I was just a an intrestd listener,reader like now,and i want 2 have tender approaches 2 anyones opinions he may share wid me..A big query boggles my mind that i beg an answer fr u pinoyatheist that im il be gratefl if i find light 2 this accdgly. -if the Bible is not credible in its approaches to all things,and if its only invented by humans,author or some sort,how could this level of psyche resulted 2 much parallelism since copernican scientifc discover until this new revolutnry discovry in parallel universes/string T relates 2 d Bible, or if there are other mythical books as u term it..How could this author of this Bible foresees all this,pls satisfy my query,it wl be a big favor,as u hav ofrd urself answers 2 this.Thank you.
Theists are dumbasses. Period
i rather point some parallelism between the Bible and parallel universes which is agree to the latter theory as a revolutionary as well as the Bible's authenticity 2 prove that these new hype on physics is not contradictory 2 the Bible..The Book may not be embracing all scientific approaches fr.observation 2 conclusion of a certain probable enigmas on the origin of life itself,since the Bible signifcntly is a Book of life,history and love that are substantial 2 the believers..Anyway there are parallel universes in the Bible as Christ the primary figure in Christianity,crucifixion(the central event of Christ):Rev.11:8-Christ was also crucified in sodom and gomorah besides the known crucifixion, universes..Multiple realities?(Eccle.3:15..Identical realities?Crucified since the world began?(rev.13:8)Space time continuum presence of Christ.,'the should have beens?(40 days vs 11 days of exodus of moses,time dilation,mountain moves in a faith as small as a mustard seed..Offering of Descendants of levites considerd as reality as early in d loins..Many more..Infinite knowledge as it is..
Naniniwala po ako na may gumawa sa lahat ng bagay na umiiral. Walang problema kung ayaw nyo maniwala, karapatan nyo po yan. Darating po ang araw na malalaman nyo ang totoo.
Ang sa akin lang po hindi porket sinabing christian ay totoong christian na nga. May mga taong binibitbit ang pangalang kristiano pero wala sa gawa. At marahil ito ang dahilan kaya may ilang naging atheist.
Karamihan na rin naman ng nakausap kong atheist hindi makasagot kapag tinanong na sila kung paano sila umiral maging sa mga nabasa kong thread ay walang makapagpaliwanag ng malinaw at credible compared sa bible.
Ang Bibliya ay may paliwanag kung saan tayo nagmula at kung bakit tayo nilalang.
Mas masarap pa rin ang pakiramdam na may Dios tayong inaasahan kaysa magpanggap na nabubuhay tayo dahil sa ating sarili, ewan ko po pero parang nayayabangan po ako sa mga taong nagsasabing di nila kailangan ang Dios sa buhay nila
Yung iba kasi parang kulang lang sa pansin kasi kapag tinatanong ko sila parang di nila alam ang maisasagot nila kung bakit sila umiiral. Parang nag-atheist lang para mapagusapan.
Life is perfect, and there is someOne who designed and planned it so we must be thankful for it.
But for the others who dont believe in God, i think they just dont want to be thankful of what they have or they dont really know the meaning of their existence.
Peace!
@hamak
[Naniniwala po ako na may gumawa sa lahat ng bagay na umiiral. Walang problema kung ayaw nyo maniwala, karapatan nyo po yan. Darating po ang araw na malalaman nyo ang totoo.]
So basically, we're free not to believe, but we're going to hell anyway. Cut the passive-aggressive, patronizing bullshit.
[Ang sa akin lang po hindi porket sinabing christian ay totoong christian na nga. May mga taong binibitbit ang pangalang kristiano pero wala sa gawa. At marahil ito ang dahilan kaya may ilang naging atheist.]
And what makes your group's interpretation of the Bible any more or less credible than that of the other groups you're discrediting?
[Karamihan na rin naman ng nakausap kong atheist hindi makasagot kapag tinanong na sila kung paano sila umiral maging sa mga nabasa kong thread ay walang makapagpaliwanag ng malinaw at credible compared sa bible.]
Well, we're not those atheists, and if you think we're all the same as those who failed to satisfy your answers, then I can only say that you're sorely mistaken.
We'd be more than happy to answer your questions, if you don't mind sharing them with us 🙂
[Ang Bibliya ay may paliwanag kung saan tayo nagmula at kung bakit tayo nilalang. ]
From a mythical, and symbolic standpoint, perhaps. The same thing is true of all fair tales after all.
But as a source of scientific data, that would be a resounding No. Creationists and the ID movement have yet to post any credible arguments on their behalf, and have consistently resorted to logical fallacies, if not flat-out lying to try to argue their case.
And unlike your anecdotes of atheists who can't answer your questions, I can link to at least half a dozen sites that prove my point.
[Mas masarap pa rin ang pakiramdam na may Dios tayong inaasahan kaysa magpanggap na nabubuhay tayo dahil sa ating sarili, ewan ko po pero parang nayayabangan po ako sa mga taong nagsasabing di nila kailangan ang Dios sa buhay nila]
Saying that you believe in God just because it makes you feel better and secure is a poor argument for their existence, if it's even an argument at all.
It's no different from a child who argues that their imaginary friend is real, for the sole reason that it makes them sleep well at night, or they think that it keeps the equally fictional boogeyman away.
And if you think we're being arrogant, well it sucks to be you.
Most of us here are proud of being able to come into our own not only through our own hands, but through the collaborative efforts of several like-minded people like us. What you call "arrogance," we call self-confidence.
We believe that if we're ever going to make something of ourselves, it won't be by grovelling on our knees and begging for forgiveness because of some guilt complex imposed by a cult.
[Life is perfect, and there is someOne who designed and planned it so we must be thankful for it.]
Argument from ignorance. If you don't know how something works, it must be God's doing. This shit has been disproven again and again before, and you're using the same argument again.
And as far as saying life is "perfect", I can only say this: You are a fucking idiot.
Tell your belief to the millions in Africa who have died over the last few years due to starvation and disease. Tell that to the 50+ people who were slaughtered last November 2009 in Maguindanao.
To live is indeed a gift, a triumph of the biological processes that share a part in what we become. But to pretend it's all flowers and beautiful sunsets can only mean one of two things: That you're either on drugs, or that you're delusional enough to need them. Very badly.
[But for the others who don't believe in God, i think they just don't want to be thankful of what they have or they dont really know the meaning of their existence.]
On the contrary, it's because believe that there is no god, and hence no heaven or afterlife that we cherish. And as for the meaning of our existence, well that's something we'll have to figure out as we go along.
Your whole post is screaming IGNORANCE, every "argument" of it. You seriously need to take your studies in College seriously, or if you are already a graduate (and probably an addition to the glorious unemployed), I highly suggest you to take advanced studies (Psychology, Philosophy, Physics, anything that will set your critical thinking to work).
You probably would not understand what my point is but I'll say it anyway just for the hell of it – most people have a problem on interpretations. You take a view/attitude of an atheist or two then generalize to the population. In short, they always ASSUME! Kaya in the field of science, you always TEST assumptions to see if they are correct. Bakit hindi mo kaya i-test ang assumption mo? I'll answer it for you – because you don't know how. So please refer to my suggestion in the first paragraph.
Ang pathetic mo naman for presenting the argument na "Ang Bibliya ay may paliwanag kung saan tayo nagmula at kung bakit tayo nilalang. " It implies that you are a human incapable of exercising your true nature – to rationalize. You are contented with the fact that your "organized" religion presents you with such details.
?Mas masarap pa rin ang pakiramdam na may Dios tayong inaasahan kaysa magpanggap na nabubuhay tayo dahil sa ating sarili, ewan ko po pero parang nayayabangan po ako sa mga taong nagsasabing di nila kailangan ang Dios sa buhay nila"
Let me tell you this – sobrang SARAP sa pakiramdam na alam mong may kakayahan kang MAG-ISIP nang wasto hindi halintulad sa bilyong mga hangal sa mundong ito na lahat ng pagkakataon ay inaasa na lang sa kanilang diyos. Kung nayayabangan ka man sa mga ganitong uri ng tao, blame your own perception because it is only your own assumption (again) that leads you to that statement. You obviously have an issue of low sense of worth going on and projecting it to atheists will not help it increase one bit. Perhaps you should pray to your god to give you greater self-esteem or maybe, JUST MAYBE, you can help yourself to develop it.
"Life is perfect, and there is someOne who designed and planned it so we must be thankful for it."
Wow, why do I even bother replying to your shit? Eto nanaman tayo sa DIVINE PLAN na yan. Eh may divine plan naman pala si Diyos, bakit ka pa nagdadasal to ask for requests? To say sorry? To give thanks? Don't be a hypocrite, I'm sure you prayed for something to happen. (Which im pretty sure is not included in this divine plan if by any chance it exists).
"But for the others who dont believe in God, i think they just dont want to be thankful of what they have or they dont really know the meaning of their existence."
Again, don't assume, you're not that great. I'll keep my own personal ideas to myself regarding the "meaning of my existence."
Curse/Swear/Bash me and you lose. Sorry. If this happens, please refer to my first paragraph again. It's the best advice I can give you.
This issue, and the necessary implications that it presuppose is the reason why I am striving to attain this middle ground between faith and reason.I may not be a fundie, I may not be a convinced atheist, I may not be a liberal Jesuit etc; but what this thread of spuriously written arguments (if it may be proper to call such ignorance) by this guy proves is that EDUCATION will bring us all a sense of freedom from the chains of fear and ignorance that inevitably result to this kind of stupidity, manifested as it is by ADD.
For kuya John naman, I agree with Twin-Skies (or was it?) , that yeahhhh brooo, such an intellectual like you shouldn't be wasting your precious time and being arguing( or explaining,rather) with this dimwit.Much respect man, props to ya. =)
nag aalala lang ako sa pagiging ignorante ng mga pinoy sa atheism o pagiging atheist. Sana, bago nila husgahan ang mga hindi naniniwala, kilalanin na muna nila kung ano ito. Nakakabahala ang sinulat na ito ni Mr. Joseph Perdon:
"Wala ka namang kabutihang mapapala sa pagiging atheista eh. Takbo ng buhay mo wala."Baka nga mayaman ka, baka nga may maganda kang trabaho pero after that wala na. Ang pagtulong sa kapwa tao ng mga atheista is pakitang tao lang, plastic. Bakit? Kung wala ngang Dios, ano ngayon ang difference ng paggawa ng mabuti sa paggawa ng masama? Kung mamamatay kang isang atheista na magnanakaw, pumapatay ng tao, o rapist, may difference ba?"
Mr. Perdon, nasasaktan lang po ako sa mga sinasabi mo kasi pinipilit ko pong maging mabuting mamamayan ng Pilipinas, nagbabayad po ako ng buhis at hindi gumagawa ng anumang kriminalidad sa lipunan. Marami po akong mga kaibigang atheist na namumuhay ng mapayapa ang kanilang kalooban at mapayapa sa kapwa.
Kahit mag survey po kayo, itataya ko po ang isang taon kung sweldo kung marami kang malilistang kriminal na atheist kaysa kriminal na "christers".
At hindi magugulo ang mundo kung ang pagiging atheist ang mangingibabaw…paki review nalang po ng high school history book mo at makikita mong marami ang pinatay dahil sa kristiyanismo kaysa sa gutom..
Stop equating atheism to lawlessness. Gsuto ko na yata mag agree kay pinoyatheist na talagang makitid lang ang utak mo..
As I have already told Twin-Skies, this is a dirty job, but someone has to doit. Kung hindi eh mamimihasa yan sa kaka-post ng mga basura against science, evolution and atheism.
Oh trust me, there is plenty of garbage to clear out in Philippine society, but as far as threat assessments are concerned, ADD ranks near-bottom of the food chain.
Let INC take care of ADD 😉
I've clashed(online forum) with this guy before. My experience can be summed up in the following quote(slightly modified for better a fit):
"Debating fundies is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
josepherdon:
– won't address your points but just continue attacking you with ad hominem
– won't answer your questions but just keeps on his rants
– won't acknowledge that he has been beaten. He will just disappear for days, weeks even. Then come back spouting the same rants as before as if nothing had happened.
So I guess he's back again eh?
[article: “ apes and humans comes from a common ancestor. Evolution doesn’t say that monkeys became human. It just say that homonids, simians and prosimians came from a common lineage”]
The common ancestor was an early apes, very much hairy and ape like whether looking at ardipetecus or at proconsul (15 mya) : apelike creatures who became human via Australopithecus, homo habilis, homo erectus finally to homo sapiens (approx 150-200 tya).
And dark matter are quite likely being WIMPS (weak interacting massive particles) might be measured/confirmed within the next years in CERN.
And the quantum physics are indeed weird, a proton for example consist of different quarks, who are much more heavier than the proton itself – weird staff.
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/index.php?option…
There are dozens of very interesting science lecture videos available in perimeter institutes website
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/Outreach/Public_…
only the online streaming on a slow connection sucks.
Reading the first few replies that Joseph had regarding atheists made my eyes bleed. I fear that reading any further will cause my head to explode.
From its sheer stupidity, and not because it's awesome.
pinoyatheist, while I admire the energy and effort you put into setting Joseph straight, you don't have to punish yourself like that. Everybody here already knows that ADD is the last place we'd look for intelligent arguments. Arguing against ADD's cultists is like trying to win a chess match against a retard.
Everybody has a part to play in FF, unfortunately, my job in FF is taking out the garbage.
That's what incinerators are for, dude 😉
Sheesh, even the Imperium Space Marines are moderate compared to the guy you argued with.
I always thought that a truce between Theists and Atheists is not working. The only reason Theists allow atheist to walk is by thinking that atheists are no threat to them. If you become a threat, they will burn you.
How can be an atheist a threat to theist? Another way to say it: Reason is a big threat to unreason (faith) or vice versa.
Because:
http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032009/faith_a…
It really depends on the theist you're talking to. One of my Jesuit friends has no problems with my being non-religious.
On the flip side, the guys my mom meets in CCF, when they realized I wasn't Christian and didn't believe in religions, looked at me with a combination of concern and condemnation.
As if I had a mental illness.
My old grade 7 homeroom who came back recently, and was apparently a devout Catholic, also didn't seem to mind when I told her that I gave up on religion. "Just as long as I always tried to be a decent human being," she said.
So really, it really depends on the theist you're talking to. Although I do wish that the moderates and liberals within the faith would speak up more when one of the fundies starts laying on the hate.
Napakatalino nya. Kayang kaya nyang talunin sa debate si Christopher Hitchens.
I have always been respectful of religion. I was also a (fundamentalist, dare I say) born again Christian for 20+ years of my life, so understand how they fell into those beliefs. Thankfully one day I was just honest with myself. I couldn't believe, because I just didn't. My family hold it sacred and I love my family, so have never spoken against their beliefs.
But recently I've found that this respect isn't mutual. They bash my atheist beliefs with naive and immature attacks and reasoning.
I think it's time to stop being so respectful.
That's what being an atheist made you… you'll stop being respectful
So every atheist is disrespectful. How simple the world is, which you must live in.
Just your own comment onto mine shows your own stance on "respect" when it comes to atheist.
Just because you want it to be true, doesn't mean it is. So feel free to live under the rock. My world is bigger than yours.
uuuuiii bad yan huwag naman ganun respect each otheeeeerrrr….
seriously though, sometimes your friends and family will despise for standing in what you believe in. I can't count how many times a chick broke up with me cause she found out I'm an atheist.