Status: Name: f241vc15 Nickname: f241vc15 Member since: 2009-02-05 17:15:06 Website URL: http://f241vc15.wordpress.com About me: Live long, and prosper \V/,
1) and 2) Right now I can’t say how far (meaning distance in miles/kilometers), but I’m sure you can use Google Maps or something equivalent for that. But to get from NAIA terminal 3 you’d just have to ride a jeep or taxi to the nearest MRT station ( I forgot which one it is, but the jeepney/taxi drivers shouldn’t have a problem with that). There are taxis waiting at NAIA, and there are jeepneys coming and going outside the perimeter of NAIA terminal 3. You shouldn’t have a problem locating them I suppose. The trip to the nearest MRT station should just take about 10 mins more or less. When you get to the MRT station, ride all the way up to either Quezon Avenue station or SM North station. This MRT ride should take just about 25-30 mins I think. From those two stations you should be able to ride a jeepney (or taxi) quickly to UP Diliman.
3) Taxi from NAIA to UP Diliman? Not sure, maybe around 300 pesos (wild guess)
Thanks for the nice comment and observation. I, however, agree with you that the ‘truth is out there’ tagline of The X-Files concerned itself mainly with the existence of the paranormal or of ETs. BUT I disagree with you that that’s the whole of it. If you look closely at the level of the characters, it is also a struggle against happiness.
For Mulder, he so desperately wanted to know the truth on many things: the government conspiracy, existence of ETs, and whatever happened to his sister and so on. All of those were personal to him. Finding out the truth, did it really make him happy? And even if he did somewhat find it/them, why does he still seem to seek it (as referenced in the latest movie)?
For Scully, the truth mainly concerns her belief in her religion and her being a scientist/rationalist/doctor. How does she tackle the fact that those two sides of her have different truths? She still has to resolve that in order to be really happy, again as seen in the latest movie.
I’m thinking your defending Christianity or Catholicism then? Because if you didn’t know Zeus (in your quip “Zeus Mariosep”) is also a god. In fact, people also pray to “Mariosep” which is just a portmanteau of “Maria” and “Joseph”, in case again you didn’t know.
It’s really hard to remove the knee jerk reaction of calling out to someone of higher authority than us, when we’re in trouble. Some big, tough men for example, call instead their mommies, some call an invisible stalker such as the Judeo-Christian god, when in trouble (or in a foxhole as you put it). It’s really hard to remove that especially when you grew up being indoctrinated in all that mumbo-jumbo. This is similar to how people react quickly when say, in a fire, some just freeze and can’t do anything, while others become more alert.
We have nobody you say? That’s weird, since I got my brother, my sister, my friends, relatives, parents, even our dogs and cats.
Regarding the silent movie, that is as we’ve mentioned, a metaphorical extension. That’s muddled with the physics of light. Again, the article could have easily been 2 separate posts: truth according to science and religion, and the take of physics + secularism on death and immortality. So what you’re actually trying to clarify is pretty clear in my first paragraph, while I wasn’t necessarily talking about the truth as I defined it, in the succeeding paragraphs with Mulder and Scully and light.
Again, there is a connection as well as a certain disconnect with my first paragraph (truth, religion, science) and the succeeding ones (secularism, physics of light, Mulder and Scully).
I also fancy metaphors, and hopefully I can try to do more articles like this in the future, whether in prose or poetry form. You can search around this site or my own blog to find a number of similar metaphorical posts.
Btw regarding the 2nd X-Files movie, I Want To Believe, I can’t say I hate it, since aside from my being a Phile, I think it’s an acceptable aside from the arc/myth established by the 1st movie. Sure it didn’t have enough excitement and conspiracy and aliens as the 1st one, but it gave a glimpse and update on M & S, after the series ended, and as well as their relationship and how they’ve changed. I see it as being similar to those non mytharc episodes in the series, which are small digressions from the real story. So I’m patiently/impatiently waiting for the 3rd movie about the alien invasion.
It is the truth as I’ve defined it, since the light discussion is based on current science. Let me elaborate further.
If you look closely at this post it could have easily been 2 posts: one talking about truth as revealed by science and by religion/superstition. The other, is a pondering of death and immortality and the current understanding of physics on light and the universe, coupled with a secularist’s view. The latter part, that of light, muddles up the meaning and metaphorically relates death and immortality to the phenomena that is light. So the reader then has to distinguish at some point, the relation of death and immortality with regards to the physics of light, which I was playfully trying to establish.
I think I’ve made it quite clear in the post that things such as souls do not constitute scientific truth, but the propagation of light with information encoded in it, is.
I’m not sure how transporter got in (as in Star Trek matter transporter) ? I don’t think I mentioned anything regarding transporters. Light does transport information, but not in the same league as a matter transporter in Trek.
I think you got confused by the post. In the opening paragraph I was merely comparing the truth as revealed by science and truth as revealed by religion/superstition. The light-immortality part in the succeeding paragraphs don’t necessarily deal with the truth mentioned earlier, as I was metaphorically relating immortality with the persistence of light as it moves across the universe.
The only connections of the first paragraph with the succeeding ones are the X-Files part and the science part. The first opening paragraph doesn’t even mention light or immortality, right?
Regarding the silent ‘movie’ so far our limited technology can’t figure in sound via light. But I think there are possible workarounds in the future. For example, based on the reflected object’s structural makeup, scientists now are beginning to infer the smell of a distant object via its reflected light. So sound may come soon.
Light can transmit information, and images (pictures and so on) are only a few among many types of information that can be encoded in a light beam. From a light beam you can watch video and chat with somebody else across the world (that’s how the Internet is operated nowadays), you can discern the molecular makeup of an object or animal from where the light was reflected from, distance of the light source, time it was sent, and so on. Perhaps in the future when we learn new science we can extract much more information from a simple ‘beam of light’.
You have to be more specific, as I think I have, when you say ‘us’. What do you mean by ‘us’? Our individuality? Given enough time and computer processing power, I think one can more or less say that it’s quite easy to rebuild ‘you’ or anybody else for that matter. Our brains, though biological, are still machines, made up of electrical impulses that store and retrieve data in a way we don’t fully comprehend yet. But in the future it is likely we will.
Of course a light beam couldn’t contain us materially, but as I mentioned above, it can give alien beings a sort of a ‘movie’ of our lives unfolding, as they peer through their telescopes or instruments. Our eyes are very crude, and so to answer your question about a sensor that can better our eyes, there are quite a lot of sophisticated equipment so much better than our eyes.
The aliens will be able to watch our lives unfold, like a television drama. And so with that, they can more or less give a detailed account of who you were, depending on what time they started viewing you from their telescopes: your mannerisms, hobbies, etc. all those that have been reflected with light.
Truth in the sense that I described and defined it in my earlier reply above? Yes I think it is truth. We know for a fact that the starlight from the distant stars and bodies we’re observing have been traveling for a significant time over a significant distance, before arriving here on Earth. It’s not me being fanciful in the sense that I imagine and wish it to be so.
@GabbyD: What is truth you ask? If I have not made it clear in the post, I will do so now. By truth in this case I mean physical truths, truths that can more or less be revealed by science or scientific inquiry. This I’ve taken from Carl Sagan, specifically in his book ‘The Varieties of Scientific Experience’.
I do not mean here metaphysical truths such as existence, or love, or other abstract human concepts.
How do I know if something is true, in the sense that I have outlined above? Again, one has to apply scientific inquiry and reasoning here i.e. it has to be reasonable and logical, and, preferably after that, it withstands rigorous testing, most likely performed several times, by independent observers. Religion, superstition, and other irrational or illogical search for ‘truths’ (as Car Sagan mentions them) are far from this.
Short review on ‘The Big Bang Theory’ episode ‘The Einstein Approximation’
February 8th, 2010 at 2:41 pmYou should!
Filipino Freethinkers Film Festival 2010 Challenges Religion, Celebrates Reason.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:36 pmf241vc15 likes this.
New Film Fest Poster
February 6th, 2010 at 12:10 pmNot necessarily.
New Film Fest Poster
February 6th, 2010 at 11:55 amLet me try to partially answer some of those
1) and 2) Right now I can’t say how far (meaning distance in miles/kilometers), but I’m sure you can use Google Maps or something equivalent for that. But to get from NAIA terminal 3 you’d just have to ride a jeep or taxi to the nearest MRT station ( I forgot which one it is, but the jeepney/taxi drivers shouldn’t have a problem with that). There are taxis waiting at NAIA, and there are jeepneys coming and going outside the perimeter of NAIA terminal 3. You shouldn’t have a problem locating them I suppose. The trip to the nearest MRT station should just take about 10 mins more or less. When you get to the MRT station, ride all the way up to either Quezon Avenue station or SM North station. This MRT ride should take just about 25-30 mins I think. From those two stations you should be able to ride a jeepney (or taxi) quickly to UP Diliman.
3) Taxi from NAIA to UP Diliman? Not sure, maybe around 300 pesos (wild guess)
Short review on ‘The Big Bang Theory’ episode ‘The Einstein Approximation’
February 6th, 2010 at 11:49 amUh oh.
You’ve been warned/spoiler alerted though.
As for me, I don’t mind spoilers. I’m impervious to them.
Short review on ‘The Big Bang Theory’ episode ‘The Einstein Approximation’
February 5th, 2010 at 12:37 pmNot sure what you guys found weak in the episode, but for my part and the criteria I used for judging, it worked for me.
Pro-Choice, Be Safe (by Lenore Laluna)
January 20th, 2010 at 2:04 pmNice read.
You go girl!
Sorry guys, I'm reconverting...
January 6th, 2010 at 8:36 am@To Be
Eh? Are you reconverting or do you mean to say that reconversion is nonsense?
@Cedric
I am of the opinion that I would be crazy i.e. delusional if I reconvert.
The Ten Commandments
December 27th, 2009 at 11:10 pm@pinoyatheist
“Christians believed that the Ten Commandments remarkably display infinite wisdom and is a morally perfect code beyond criticism.”
I think should be written as “Christians still believe…”.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 25th, 2009 at 10:47 am@paranoidpluto
Thanks for the nice comment and observation. I, however, agree with you that the ‘truth is out there’ tagline of The X-Files concerned itself mainly with the existence of the paranormal or of ETs. BUT I disagree with you that that’s the whole of it. If you look closely at the level of the characters, it is also a struggle against happiness.
For Mulder, he so desperately wanted to know the truth on many things: the government conspiracy, existence of ETs, and whatever happened to his sister and so on. All of those were personal to him. Finding out the truth, did it really make him happy? And even if he did somewhat find it/them, why does he still seem to seek it (as referenced in the latest movie)?
For Scully, the truth mainly concerns her belief in her religion and her being a scientist/rationalist/doctor. How does she tackle the fact that those two sides of her have different truths? She still has to resolve that in order to be really happy, again as seen in the latest movie.
Sorry guys, I'm reconverting...
December 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm@Jules
Wow, you did huh?
No tales of the Rapture or anything of that sort?
@Red Rudolph
You might want to check my update on this post of mine amigo: http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/11/24/revelations-in-the-reconversion-post/
Surely polytheism is not an option, right?...
December 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am@reallythinkingfreely
Religion? What religion? The only one in this discussion who has a religion, as the dictionary meaning of the word gives it, seems to be you mi amigo.
Sure, Christ is alive now, but before that, he died. So coming back from the dead, that makes one a zombie.
Surely polytheism is not an option, right?...
December 18th, 2009 at 5:44 pm@reallythinkingfreely (really?)
I’m thinking your defending Christianity or Catholicism then? Because if you didn’t know Zeus (in your quip “Zeus Mariosep”) is also a god. In fact, people also pray to “Mariosep” which is just a portmanteau of “Maria” and “Joseph”, in case again you didn’t know.
It’s really hard to remove the knee jerk reaction of calling out to someone of higher authority than us, when we’re in trouble. Some big, tough men for example, call instead their mommies, some call an invisible stalker such as the Judeo-Christian god, when in trouble (or in a foxhole as you put it). It’s really hard to remove that especially when you grew up being indoctrinated in all that mumbo-jumbo. This is similar to how people react quickly when say, in a fire, some just freeze and can’t do anything, while others become more alert.
We have nobody you say? That’s weird, since I got my brother, my sister, my friends, relatives, parents, even our dogs and cats.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 17th, 2009 at 10:48 am@GabbyD
Regarding the silent movie, that is as we’ve mentioned, a metaphorical extension. That’s muddled with the physics of light. Again, the article could have easily been 2 separate posts: truth according to science and religion, and the take of physics + secularism on death and immortality. So what you’re actually trying to clarify is pretty clear in my first paragraph, while I wasn’t necessarily talking about the truth as I defined it, in the succeeding paragraphs with Mulder and Scully and light.
Again, there is a connection as well as a certain disconnect with my first paragraph (truth, religion, science) and the succeeding ones (secularism, physics of light, Mulder and Scully).
I also fancy metaphors, and hopefully I can try to do more articles like this in the future, whether in prose or poetry form. You can search around this site or my own blog to find a number of similar metaphorical posts.
Btw regarding the 2nd X-Files movie, I Want To Believe, I can’t say I hate it, since aside from my being a Phile, I think it’s an acceptable aside from the arc/myth established by the 1st movie. Sure it didn’t have enough excitement and conspiracy and aliens as the 1st one, but it gave a glimpse and update on M & S, after the series ended, and as well as their relationship and how they’ve changed. I see it as being similar to those non mytharc episodes in the series, which are small digressions from the real story. So I’m patiently/impatiently waiting for the 3rd movie about the alien invasion.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 17th, 2009 at 8:45 am@GabbyD
It is the truth as I’ve defined it, since the light discussion is based on current science. Let me elaborate further.
If you look closely at this post it could have easily been 2 posts: one talking about truth as revealed by science and by religion/superstition. The other, is a pondering of death and immortality and the current understanding of physics on light and the universe, coupled with a secularist’s view. The latter part, that of light, muddles up the meaning and metaphorically relates death and immortality to the phenomena that is light. So the reader then has to distinguish at some point, the relation of death and immortality with regards to the physics of light, which I was playfully trying to establish.
I think I’ve made it quite clear in the post that things such as souls do not constitute scientific truth, but the propagation of light with information encoded in it, is.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pm@GabbyD
I’m not sure how transporter got in (as in Star Trek matter transporter) ? I don’t think I mentioned anything regarding transporters. Light does transport information, but not in the same league as a matter transporter in Trek.
I think you got confused by the post. In the opening paragraph I was merely comparing the truth as revealed by science and truth as revealed by religion/superstition. The light-immortality part in the succeeding paragraphs don’t necessarily deal with the truth mentioned earlier, as I was metaphorically relating immortality with the persistence of light as it moves across the universe.
The only connections of the first paragraph with the succeeding ones are the X-Files part and the science part. The first opening paragraph doesn’t even mention light or immortality, right?
Regarding the silent ‘movie’ so far our limited technology can’t figure in sound via light. But I think there are possible workarounds in the future. For example, based on the reflected object’s structural makeup, scientists now are beginning to infer the smell of a distant object via its reflected light. So sound may come soon.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 16th, 2009 at 5:04 pm@GabbyD
Light can transmit information, and images (pictures and so on) are only a few among many types of information that can be encoded in a light beam. From a light beam you can watch video and chat with somebody else across the world (that’s how the Internet is operated nowadays), you can discern the molecular makeup of an object or animal from where the light was reflected from, distance of the light source, time it was sent, and so on. Perhaps in the future when we learn new science we can extract much more information from a simple ‘beam of light’.
You have to be more specific, as I think I have, when you say ‘us’. What do you mean by ‘us’? Our individuality? Given enough time and computer processing power, I think one can more or less say that it’s quite easy to rebuild ‘you’ or anybody else for that matter. Our brains, though biological, are still machines, made up of electrical impulses that store and retrieve data in a way we don’t fully comprehend yet. But in the future it is likely we will.
Of course a light beam couldn’t contain us materially, but as I mentioned above, it can give alien beings a sort of a ‘movie’ of our lives unfolding, as they peer through their telescopes or instruments. Our eyes are very crude, and so to answer your question about a sensor that can better our eyes, there are quite a lot of sophisticated equipment so much better than our eyes.
The aliens will be able to watch our lives unfold, like a television drama. And so with that, they can more or less give a detailed account of who you were, depending on what time they started viewing you from their telescopes: your mannerisms, hobbies, etc. all those that have been reflected with light.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm@GabbyD
Truth in the sense that I described and defined it in my earlier reply above? Yes I think it is truth. We know for a fact that the starlight from the distant stars and bodies we’re observing have been traveling for a significant time over a significant distance, before arriving here on Earth. It’s not me being fanciful in the sense that I imagine and wish it to be so.
May I inquire what are you driving at here?
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 16th, 2009 at 11:02 am@GabbyD: What is truth you ask? If I have not made it clear in the post, I will do so now. By truth in this case I mean physical truths, truths that can more or less be revealed by science or scientific inquiry. This I’ve taken from Carl Sagan, specifically in his book ‘The Varieties of Scientific Experience’.
I do not mean here metaphysical truths such as existence, or love, or other abstract human concepts.
How do I know if something is true, in the sense that I have outlined above? Again, one has to apply scientific inquiry and reasoning here i.e. it has to be reasonable and logical, and, preferably after that, it withstands rigorous testing, most likely performed several times, by independent observers. Religion, superstition, and other irrational or illogical search for ‘truths’ (as Car Sagan mentions them) are far from this.
Secularism and Physics on Death and Immortality
December 15th, 2009 at 11:30 pmFYI btw The X-Files episode I was referring to in this post is the season 8 episode ‘This is not happening’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Not_Happening).
And if you’re a Phile like me, you can read the whole episode’s transcript here: http://www.insidethex.co.uk/transcrp/scrp814.htm
Enjoy.
Surely polytheism is not an option, right?...
December 15th, 2009 at 11:20 pmTo all sci-fi and comic book (DC/Marvel) aficionados here:
http://f241vc15.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/things-im-hyped-upexcited-about-in-2010/
If you look and examine really close, you might just find out something about the common, Judeo-Christian God and variations of it...
December 9th, 2009 at 9:33 pm@romainchester
Is it?
Oh man. Now it’s going to be too easy for the rest of the guys and gals.
If you look and examine really close, you might just find out something about the common, Judeo-Christian God and variations of it...
December 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pm@FFers or all commenters:
I wonder if anybody here so far has deciphered this post?
Hint: You will get some insight if you highlight.
Surely polytheism is not an option, right?...
December 9th, 2009 at 3:01 pm@ramonster
That dialog is hilarious.
I should read that comic sometime soon. Thanks for sharing.
If you look and examine really close, you might just find out something about the common, Judeo-Christian God and variations of it...
December 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm@wes
Did you also find it?