people of reason and knowledge need to wrest control and eventually prevail over these knuckle dragging throwbacks.

We have seen a lot of well-intentioned extremists fucking up their part of the globe.

"I Pretend to love men, in order to destroy them; serve them, in order to ruin them and deceive them; help them, in order to pervert them and draw them into these my hellish regions.”

The catholic church claims to spread the love of god and hope to its constituents, but tell me how many times it has put people to the torch and imprisoned, if not executed intellectuals, non-catholics, and other deviants throughout history?

Thomas More himself was known to have torched more than one man simply for going against church law, while Adolf Hitler talked about his devout Catholicism when he gave those rousing speeches about the agenda of the Nazi party.

And finally, we have Mr. Atienza here, who claims to speak on behalf of religious morality, despite his past strack record for shady media dealings and media whoring, when he should have been doing his job of running my town.

Who was it that demonized homosexuality, claimed the moral high ground despite the fact their authority is now being rocked to the core by by a perfect storm of sex abuse exposes that has involved several of their high-ranking bishops.

I will agree with as far as saying satan is afoot in these trying times, but instead of accusing us, you may want to look at your own faith to see the true monster.

serious replies like these make me sad.

People have been persuaded by the devil that they are entitled to have sex when they choose, rejecting any unwanted life that may result. The enemy may tell you “God is too demanding and unreasonable”. “If we distributed more condoms we would not have disease or the need to abort babies”. “It’s God’s fault because God’s Church is against the use of condoms”.

Sexual intercourse, by its nature and intent is potentially life giving act. This is God’s version. The enemy’s version is that sex can be closed to give life and used for physical pleasure only. Enemy’s version of sex is selfish, emotionally dangerous, and bad for humanity. The enemy offers an answer to this too, and led souls to avoid consequences by offering
widespread contraception and abortion. Both men and women are now told that sinful sexual behaviors are allowable and acceptable. God intends that a man and woman enter a blessed union (through marriage) and then share their sexuality with one another. The devil is mocking God because he depicts God’s purpose. He is laughing because many led astray on this sin.

Isn't it this bill is one of its form that says will help us? We are deceived then by Satan if this one will be approved. Satan's plan is to destroy us by having and committing sins against God.

I'm digressing though – while the bill does state that it will teach sex ed starting at Grade 5 (I admit I was mistaken earlier), it explicitly states that the material to be taught will be age-appropriate, which means that they're not going to suddenly drop all the more explicit material on kids.

As for the matter of consent however, I am a bit dicey. What about in the event of a rape? Wouldn't it be inhumane to prevent your child, the rape victim, from taking a morning-after pill just because you think it's wrong for them to use contraceptives?

The line of questioning used in Atienza's survey overlooks scenarios like that.

i doubt it. anatomy, yes. sex? no.

i agree with your second statement tho. i think parents dont teach their kids what they need to know. this must change. rhbill can help here.

but the question we're discussing here is accuracy/truth in the pro-life survey. they did ask the question and this was the answer that they got.

also, from a technical standpoint the difference between 1200 and 500 in standard error is 1/root(N). the difference is not that large.

"It also revealed that 75 percent of Filipinos were not aware that if the RH bill becomes a law, sex education will be taught as early as Grade 5, with emphasis on the technical and biological aspects without necessarily covering the moral, religious and spiritual facets."

I had a class like that in my school too. It was called SCIENCE CLASS, and we covered the human reproductive system in great detail, minus the religious and moral implications of such activities.

"Survey results showed 65 percent agreed that fathers can best teach their sons about sex while mothers can best teach their daughters about sex, more than teachers."

Actually, based on the people I have met, it's exactly because we leave sex ed to the parents that these kids don't learn anything meaningful, at least given the level of education of the typical pinoy.

"The survey also bared that 73 percent were not aware that lawmakers have been trying to pass a reproductive Health Bill in spite of strong opposition from the Catholic Church and large segment of the population."

73 percent of a sample population of only 500 people is not a very big number, especially if it's supposed to encapsulate the sentiments of sixteen cities.

http://www.cbcpnews.com/?q=node/11814