Comments on: A Universe From Nothing http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/ A fellowship of Atheists, Agnostics, Deists, Humanists, Skeptics, and Progressive Theists in the Philippines. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:20:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Isang Kaibigan http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4155 Isang Kaibigan Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:56:45 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4155 Thanks Frank! I can’t blame my wife for thinking negatively. And no, I don’t think it is you , Frank. Since I joined the forum last June, I can’t even recall who were those hostile to me earlier. I can only recall those who recently threw negative words. Just today, I received a harsh word from someone. That made me really think not to appear in the Meetups. By the way, I’m a coffee lover. Ironically, I’ve only tried Starbucks twice in my whole life (both of which were free treats for me by my friends), because I work on a tight budget. Even this PC I’m using is a borrowed one. Happy New Year! Thanks Frank! I can’t blame my wife for thinking negatively. And no, I don’t think it is you , Frank. Since I joined the forum last June, I can’t even recall who were those hostile to me earlier. I can only recall those who recently threw negative words. Just today, I received a harsh word from someone. That made me really think not to appear in the Meetups.

By the way, I’m a coffee lover. Ironically, I’ve only tried Starbucks twice in my whole life (both of which were free treats for me by my friends), because I work on a tight budget. Even this PC I’m using is a borrowed one.

Happy New Year!

]]> By: Isang Kaibigan http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4154 Isang Kaibigan Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:49:08 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4154 Hi Gundam! I’m neither Crusader not John Paraiso. I don’t know those guys. Please let me remain anonymous here. I don’t intend to be anonymous so that I can run after punching. I don’t intend to punch or hurt anyone. I intend to interact since this is about freethought. The reason I made up this pseudonym is if just in case someone dislikes my opinion, I still might be able to run away. Believe me, I’ve never been into a physical fight in my whole life. I’m not even a confrontational person. I best express myself through monologue or writing. I don’t think I can remain anonymous for long. It only takes a hacker to know my real identity. I request that people will respect that. Pls don’t try to hack me/my PC. Hi Gundam! I’m neither Crusader not John Paraiso. I don’t know those guys. Please let me remain anonymous here. I don’t intend to be anonymous so that I can run after punching. I don’t intend to punch or hurt anyone. I intend to interact since this is about freethought. The reason I made up this pseudonym is if just in case someone dislikes my opinion, I still might be able to run away. Believe me, I’ve never been into a physical fight in my whole life. I’m not even a confrontational person. I best express myself through monologue or writing.

I don’t think I can remain anonymous for long. It only takes a hacker to know my real identity. I request that people will respect that. Pls don’t try to hack me/my PC.

]]> By: Isang Kaibigan http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4150 Isang Kaibigan Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:29:33 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4150 Thanks for enlightening me, mikong! Thanks for enlightening me, mikong!

]]> By: frank http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4144 frank Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:06:09 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4144 I think you'll be pleasantly surprised to find that people are more polite that you might think. A number of us neither drink alcohol (or coffee) nor smoke, and you can be certain none of us seriously threaten physical harm (right, Karl? ^^) I think your wife might be among those who think atheists and freethinkers are baby-eating monsters, and it would be nice if you could bring her along if you ever decide to brave a meet-up. The only thing in any danger of being hurt in our meet-ups is pride, actually, but we're usually quite polite and civil in real life. And I sure hope "the guy who was very hostile" to you wasn't me. ^^ I'm actually quite a nice guy if I might say so myself. :p I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised to find that people are more polite that you might think. A number of us neither drink alcohol (or coffee) nor smoke, and you can be certain none of us seriously threaten physical harm (right, Karl? ^^)

I think your wife might be among those who think atheists and freethinkers are baby-eating monsters, and it would be nice if you could bring her along if you ever decide to brave a meet-up. The only thing in any danger of being hurt in our meet-ups is pride, actually, but we’re usually quite polite and civil in real life.

And I sure hope “the guy who was very hostile” to you wasn’t me. ^^ I’m actually quite a nice guy if I might say so myself. :p

]]> By: mikong http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4131 mikong Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:18:34 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4131 @Isang Kaibigan: A lot of the people in the Starbucks meet-ups are very opinionated, and some will argue with people who don't share their principles, and a few would even raise their voices during discussions and be shocked at other people's opinions in a sort-of "What ?!! Are you serious!!?" kind of way and possibly call other opinions stupid. But I don't really see anyone being a threat to anyone's security. I think you'd be surprised at the contrast of how people behave in online discussions and during meet-ups. Also, people only drink coffee, chocolate drinks and fruit shakes during these Starbucks meet-ups, and we actually stay in the non-smoking area. I think there's nothing for you to worry about. You can even just observe at first instead of speaking your mind (some people stay quiet most of the time and just listen). Anyway, it's up to you if you want to attend. @Isang Kaibigan: A lot of the people in the Starbucks meet-ups are very opinionated, and some will argue with people who don’t share their principles, and a few would even raise their voices during discussions and be shocked at other people’s opinions in a sort-of “What ?!! Are you serious!!?” kind of way and possibly call other opinions stupid. But I don’t really see anyone being a threat to anyone’s security. I think you’d be surprised at the contrast of how people behave in online discussions and during meet-ups. Also, people only drink coffee, chocolate drinks and fruit shakes during these Starbucks meet-ups, and we actually stay in the non-smoking area. I think there’s nothing for you to worry about. You can even just observe at first instead of speaking your mind (some people stay quiet most of the time and just listen). Anyway, it’s up to you if you want to attend.

]]> By: Akó si Gundam http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4129 Akó si Gundam Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:54:01 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4129 If you really are Crusader (I hope not), then you're referring to John Paraiso, aren't you? If you really are Crusader (I hope not), then you’re referring to John Paraiso, aren’t you?

]]> By: Igme http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4127 Igme Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:23:08 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4127 Crusader is that you ?!? Crusader is that you ?!?

]]> By: Isang Kaibigan http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4121 Isang Kaibigan Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:30:57 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4121 This is what I like about these guys (mikong and innerminds). They are very civil and objective. I would have joined the Starbucks Meetup if only I don’t feel threatened from some of the guys who go there (and if only I don’t attend Sunday church gatherings). They never made threats, but they are hostile in their responses from my comments. I sense that I would be an odd guy (for my views and since I don’t drink alcoholic beverages too). Some of them still can’t accept a theist being a freethinker at the same time. (I will not name them. Pls don’t ask me to name them.) I looked at the flickr of FFF from Kristine Chan. When I saw the guy who was very hostile to me, frequently attending that Starbucks Meetup, I decided to show up anymore. My wife said “Absolutely No! You have a family. Think of our security.” Oh, yes, I can’t stay long around where there is smoking. I’ve been free from asthma for 3 years now. I don’t wanna go through it anymore. (By the way, I don’t condemn anyone who drinks and smokes. I’m not a moral judge of anybody.) This is what I like about these guys (mikong and innerminds). They are very civil and objective.

I would have joined the Starbucks Meetup if only I don’t feel threatened from some of the guys who go there (and if only I don’t attend Sunday church gatherings). They never made threats, but they are hostile in their responses from my comments. I sense that I would be an odd guy (for my views and since I don’t drink alcoholic beverages too). Some of them still can’t accept a theist being a freethinker at the same time. (I will not name them. Pls don’t ask me to name them.)

I looked at the flickr of FFF from Kristine Chan. When I saw the guy who was very hostile to me, frequently attending that Starbucks Meetup, I decided to show up anymore. My wife said “Absolutely No! You have a family. Think of our security.”

Oh, yes, I can’t stay long around where there is smoking. I’ve been free from asthma for 3 years now. I don’t wanna go through it anymore. (By the way, I don’t condemn anyone who drinks and smokes. I’m not a moral judge of anybody.)

]]> By: innerminds http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4111 innerminds Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:03:23 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4111 Uhm...calling f241vc15! :) Uhm…calling f241vc15! :)

]]> By: mikong http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/25/a-universe-from-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-4110 mikong Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:42:16 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2229#comment-4110 "existed eternally in some form or another" Thanks for clarifying that, I thought you were implying that it is not eternal because of the Big Bang. I also need to read more about quantum mechanics. Though I may have graduated BS Physics, it's sad to admit that I've forgotten most of what I've learned, and I'm not so well read on the theories not taught in school. A lot of the freethinkers here probably know more about q. m., astrophysics and cosmology than I do. “existed eternally in some form or another”

Thanks for clarifying that, I thought you were implying that it is not eternal because of the Big Bang.

I also need to read more about quantum mechanics. Though I may have graduated BS Physics, it’s sad to admit that I’ve forgotten most of what I’ve learned, and I’m not so well read on the theories not taught in school. A lot of the freethinkers here probably know more about q. m., astrophysics and cosmology than I do.

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