Comments on: From an Indonesian Atheist http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/ A fellowship of atheists, agnostics, deists, humanists, skeptics, and freethinkers in the Philippines and around the world. Tue, 22 May 2012 11:29:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: poufsouffle http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-/#comment-119902 poufsouffle Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:45:00 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-119902 and you are delusional and you are delusional

]]> By: poufsouffle http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-119889 poufsouffle Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:30:15 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-119889 ey .. il est mignon .. ^_^ ey .. il est mignon .. ^_^

]]> By: Miguel http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2093 Miguel Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:17:45 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2093 He's not an idiot. He's actually right. Sure, anyone can have a purpose in life. I can think my purpose in life is to be the best writer in the world. You can aspire to be a basketball player or what have you. We all create our own purposes. But such purposes are subjective. Without a God, there really will be no objective purpose. Without God, life can only have a self-assigned, subjective meaning. A non-objective, self-assigned meaning is purely imaginary! Sadly, the naturalist --which I assume you are-- is just latching on to one diversion after another in a desperate attempt to avoid the reality of a meaningless life. He's not an idiot. He's actually right. Sure, anyone can have a purpose in life. I can think my purpose in life is to be the best writer in the world. You can aspire to be a basketball player or what have you. We all create our own purposes.

But such purposes are subjective. Without a God, there really will be no objective purpose. Without God, life can only have a self-assigned, subjective meaning. A non-objective, self-assigned meaning is purely imaginary!

Sadly, the naturalist –which I assume you are– is just latching on to one diversion after another in a desperate attempt to avoid the reality of a meaningless life.

]]> By: Antonio Eriberto Car http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2092 Antonio Eriberto Car Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:57:14 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2092 idiot. idiot.

]]> By: Manolo http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2091 Manolo Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:39:00 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2091 You obviously did not read the post or have failed to understand it. Your comment just shows where you are coming from and how you think- insisting that your perspective applies to others. Don't pity us. Instead, take a long, hard, good look in the mirror. You obviously did not read the post or have failed to understand it. Your comment just shows where you are coming from and how you think- insisting that your perspective applies to others. Don't pity us. Instead, take a long, hard, good look in the mirror.

]]> By: pinoybuddhist http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2090 pinoybuddhist Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:41:12 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2090 I do not need your imaginary Deity to have purpose. My purpose is to live. When I die, my purpose will have been served. I see no reason to make a dubious investment in an afterlife that may or may not exist. If there is indeed an afterlife, then how I will have lived my life prior to death will affect the quality of that afterlife. If there is no afterlife and there is no longer any "I", then there will no longer be any "I" left who will complain that there is no afterlife. Either way, I will have lived a happy life. Oh, and I am okay with impermanence. Yes, this "I" will sooner or later end - and what is so wrong about that? We live, we die. It is when we insist on clinging to one state that we suffer. Then we invent all sorts of fantasies to comfort us from the knowledge of our impending death. Fantasies just like yours. Comfort yourself all you want, but know that your pity for me and other like-minded people who have chosen to free our minds is unnecessary and a waste of your emotional energy. Your notion that life for a person like me must be a "boring routinary circus" is mistaken, for I am quite happy with the way I'm living. I do not need your imaginary Deity to have purpose. My purpose is to live. When I die, my purpose will have been served. I see no reason to make a dubious investment in an afterlife that may or may not exist. If there is indeed an afterlife, then how I will have lived my life prior to death will affect the quality of that afterlife. If there is no afterlife and there is no longer any "I", then there will no longer be any "I" left who will complain that there is no afterlife. Either way, I will have lived a happy life.

Oh, and I am okay with impermanence. Yes, this "I" will sooner or later end – and what is so wrong about that? We live, we die. It is when we insist on clinging to one state that we suffer. Then we invent all sorts of fantasies to comfort us from the knowledge of our impending death. Fantasies just like yours.

Comfort yourself all you want, but know that your pity for me and other like-minded people who have chosen to free our minds is unnecessary and a waste of your emotional energy. Your notion that life for a person like me must be a "boring routinary circus" is mistaken, for I am quite happy with the way I'm living.

]]> By: dunbar http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2089 dunbar Thu, 02 Dec 2010 06:56:40 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2089 I believe we all are created for a purpose. and it transcends than just the "here" and "now". i hold on to the truth that my soul is destined for eternity. i am living in a temporary world, yes for NOW - thriving in a temporary shell/body, but I am created by God for His greater Glory.. now my question to you guys, where will you go after death? is death the end of you?? if you answer yes, then i pity you! you must have not known your purpose afterall! you must have lived in just a boring routinary circus without knowing where it leads you.. my friends, life without God has no purpose, and without purpose, life has no meaning! God loves you, and He cares so much about you!! I believe we all are created for a purpose. and it transcends than just the "here" and "now". i hold on to the truth that my soul is destined for eternity. i am living in a temporary world, yes for NOW – thriving in a temporary shell/body, but I am created by God for His greater Glory.. now my question to you guys, where will you go after death? is death the end of you?? if you answer yes, then i pity you! you must have not known your purpose afterall! you must have lived in just a boring routinary circus without knowing where it leads you.. my friends, life without God has no purpose, and without purpose, life has no meaning! God loves you, and He cares so much about you!!

]]> By: intsiksiomai http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2088 intsiksiomai Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:40:14 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2088 Philippines is still more tolerant of nonbelievers and atheists. There are at least 3 religions I know here in Philippines: Christianity, Islam, and Confucianism(which are practiced blindly but unknowingly by my Chinese peers). Confucianism has a hierarchy system where a Chinese girl first obeys her father, then her husband, then her son. It sucks! But an atheist in a Muslim country is suckier. Philippines is still more tolerant of nonbelievers and atheists. There are at least 3 religions I know here in Philippines: Christianity, Islam, and Confucianism(which are practiced blindly but unknowingly by my Chinese peers). Confucianism has a hierarchy system where a Chinese girl first obeys her father, then her husband, then her son. It sucks! But an atheist in a Muslim country is suckier.

]]> By: Karelin http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2087 Karelin Fri, 02 Apr 2010 23:33:27 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2087 Religion really cannot exist at all in Earth, without human hypocrisy. Religion really cannot exist at all in Earth, without human hypocrisy.

]]> By: Onotheo http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/12/08/from-an-indonesian-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-2086 Onotheo Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:05:59 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=2006#comment-2086 Yay, "The Greatest Show on Earth". I have the book too. I started reading it two weeks ago but haven't finished it yet because I only read it while commuting. I've read several books on evolution and many online articles but there are always new things to learn from these books. Yay, "The Greatest Show on Earth". I have the book too. I started reading it two weeks ago but haven't finished it yet because I only read it while commuting. I've read several books on evolution and many online articles but there are always new things to learn from these books.

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