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Sorry guys, I’m reconverting…

You can forward my message below to both believers and non-believers alike.

There are many kind hearted people, some are educated some aren’t, or they do not care they are living with rational people. Belief in a great many mysteries and things is good but now that I try to think about it, oftentimes I feel most enlightened overall. Of course to them (rationalists) I become foolish and irrational for believing and for being defensive of religion. When I began it (faith), it comes as revelations to me in matters of hopes concerning the true religion. We ask why believe it? Must you ask religion to not be at all special? Of course one must be very polite to likely impart a reason since, this is faith. Perhaps because non-believers think most believing people, of course including us Bible readers, were not well taught in logic, and that we indoctrinated and convinced as many innocent children we’d found. To believe and not ask any question about the matters of God, of our heavenly faith. You and I are brothers. Can’t religion triumph? Prevent it not. Myself included, we’re from this moment questioning not faith, my personal revelations, beliefs, nor God. Every moment is time well spent, I think, to reflect on God, on his mercy. My skepticism’s now past. Returning to religious status, my convictions have changed. I now solemnly arrive to serve at God’s feet. The one true conclusion is such that of mine. A loving, forgiving, personal, and merciful God the almighty, is certainly not absurd.

Or is it?

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78 Responses to “Sorry guys, I’m reconverting…”

  1. Johnny says:

    I got the message. I remember a video in youtube showing richard dawkins lamenting what is so special about religion, that christians in america find it very offensive to talk about atheism on national tv.

  2. f241vc15 says:

    @Sathepine

    I think I can manage to do something similar/close to this in the future…stay tuned. :)

    @Johnny

    It seems that you did get the “message” of my message. :) Were the hints/clues given by other FFers here helpful? :)
    Unfortunately that is a sad fact, that to talk about atheism in public is such an ignominious act more often than not, both here in the PH and abroad. But Dawkins and the others are doing their part to change that, and so are we no? Slowly but surely. :)

  3. daniel says:

    Just be friendly

  4. f241vc15 says:

    @daniel

    Me, be friendly to whom? Believers? I don’t think I was in anyway antagonizing in this post of mine. Or was I? :) I merely stated my stand on the matter.

  5. Kahlil Opeda says:

    So subtle. I like it. =) I’m beginning to like it here in FFt.

  6. f241vc15 says:

    @Kahlil

    Welcome to FF then. :) Hopefully I’ll be able to do more posts like this in the future, and hopefully we’ll be seeing/hearing/reading from you soon as well. ;)

  7. daniel says:

    I don’t know…
    I’m confused right now…

  8. Red Rudolph says:

    Reading that article, somehow I got enlightened. I’m also sorry guys, I am also reconverting to an earlier and more pristine belief. As a child, i used to enjoy christmas without ever trying to rationalize it either by belief or disbelief in Jesus. So I hope you understand me also when I say I believe in SANTA CLAUS again!!!

    Please if you forward that story of reconverting to others, I hope you also include my version.

    Thanks & Regards, Red Rudolph

  9. Jules says:

    I had it processed by Code Finder and found nothing sinister. No reference to war, terrorism, apocalypse, or Satan.

  10. f241vc15 says:

    @Jules

    Wow, you did huh? :)

    No tales of the Rapture or anything of that sort? :D

    @Red Rudolph

    You might want to check my update on this post of mine amigo: http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/11/24/revelations-in-the-reconversion-post/ :)

  11. Red Rudolph says:

    Wow! you got me, you’re a real Illuminati!!.. hehehe :D

  12. To Be says:

    I am sorry Guys.

    I am reconverting too.

    Since I love the Philippines. I will go back to her God.

    I believe in Bathala now.

    He watches over us.

    And he guided the colonizers away from our land.

    Shouldn’t we go back to him after giving us back our freedom due to our sinfulness?

    Nonsense LOL.

  13. Cedric says:

    You sure are Crazy if you do not re-convert!

  14. f241vc15 says:

    @To Be

    Eh? Are you reconverting or do you mean to say that reconversion is nonsense?

    @Cedric

    I am of the opinion that I would be crazy i.e. delusional if I reconvert.

  15. There are no evidences that you can deny or affirm that there is a god… Now how can we know that there is GOD? Stop and think… Check your heart… Your brain doesnt understand all things… Make sense?

  16. ian says:

    NO NO NO NO!!!

    God is real.

    Everybody in this forum, reading and commenting will burn in hell.

    You will all be punished for your sins.

    Hehehehe…. i think i just pushed the right button on this atheist people. They just can’t help arguing with people who sound like their Christian Living teacher in high school.

  17. f241vc15 says:

    Hey come on fellow Filipino freethinkers! Let’s gang up on this guy and let him have it! Let’s show him how bigoted and narrow minded we are! :D

    (FYI that is sarcasm) :)

  18. mart says:

    There was a story of two fathers who brought their kids to watch a basketball game. The first father scrutinized and criticized every detail of the game. The other father just watched the game, savored and enjoyed every minute of the game. At the end of the game, the kid of the 1st father asked if he enjoyed the game. The first father said NO, everything was wrong from start until the end of the game, he even felt stressed for even watching a stupid game to begin with. The child of the second father asked the same thing, and his father said I enjoyed the game not because of its design or how it was played, I enjoyed the game because it was a moment I could be with you.

    Moral story: Take it easy guys. Life is about enjoying the moment. There is more to life than just trying to explain and explain and explain things around you. Try figuring out your own emotions and feelings, that is already as complex as the arguments being fought on this forum. Don’t be like an invention critic, its not healthy getting a sense of satisfaction in finding fault in the creation of others.

    • f241vc15 says:

      Obviously I can’t speak for everybody here, but I don’t waste my time criticizing and picking nits, since I have better and more productive things to do with my life.
      I do however, live my life in a secularly humanistic way, and apply reason and science to it. I don’t see how that can negatively affect the way I see the beauty of life, love, and everything around me. In fact, I think it enhances it even more.

    • Sathepine says:

      okay there are many moments where i am like the first father. and it really sucks. like when i’m watching horror movies. i don’t get scared (which is supposed to be the point of watching horror flicks) because i’m too busy checking out and being impressed or disappointed with the effects. the only horror movie that i really got scared with was blair witch project – no effects there. lol!

      anyway, i don’t agree with you. it’s a case to case basis. if we just satisfy ourselves with enjoying the moment all the time, nothing will ever improve, we’ll still be in the caveman days. in the situation you presented, it may be the best approach if you’re the father. but what if you’re the coach? you can’t just say to your team “i enjoyed the game because it was a moment I could be with you” lol! not every scenario in life corresponds to the father’s situation.

      now, about religion. in japan everyone is born and raised freethinkers. they may have traditional buddhist ceremonies and stuff but they don’t really have religious practices that have some impact in their lives. so this would be their situation. religion, whether christian, muslim, or nothing, wouldn’t have any impact on them. they would be like the father in your scenario. (fyi, the first time i heard the word “freethinker” was from a japanese boss of mine. i thought he was making it up to imply that he doesn’t have a religion — we were talking about christmas and how christians celebrate it, coz they don’t really celebrate christmas there. well apparently, it’s actually a real english word)

      but here, it’s not like in japan, and i personally have seen misguided folks who cling to their religion as a means of.. whatever. and it affects how they deal with other people. the catholic church is a huge force to deal with and they impose their beliefs and ideals on the masses, and even on our laws. but no everyone agrees with them. in fact, i personally believe they are encouraging narrow-mindedness. the point is, the culture of religion in this country has affected me and others, and it is very real to us, it’s not just some game that was meant to entertain. in this scenario, we are not the fathers bringing our kids to the game. we are the players (or coaches, or referees, etc…)

      but i do admit that i get over-analytical sometimes which isn’t a good thing.

      anyway, this is just my opinion.

      • f241vc15 says:

        @sathepine
        Right, mediocrity usually doesn’t leave room for improvement.

        In Japan, they raised as freethinkers? Really now? I think this is the first time I’ve heard about this. Then again, Buddhism doesn’t really follow a deity figure/type.

        In my opinion, probably because I get too analytical oftentimes, I think that’s a good thing with you and your over-analysis. Just check out some of my posts here for a sneak peak of what a ‘hell’ my mind can be oftentimes, especially for many people. :)

        Thanks for your opinions. :)

        • Sathepine says:

          Buddhism is not really a religion, it’s a way of life (detach yourself from the world, the concept of zen, etc). But even most of the Japanese themselves don’t really follow the Buddhist way of life except maybe those who are monks in the temples, etc. There’s also Shintoism, which has many deities, I think, but this is not really something they actively practice.

          Maybe they do some Buddhist and maybe Shintoism rituals during occasions like deaths, weddings, etc, but that’s all.

          There are Catholic churches there, but most of the churchgoers are foreigners (not to mention pinoys).

          And they “celebrate” Christmas somewhat like Valentines Day. Stores are having Christmas sales, there are Christmas Trees and decors everywhere, maybe they themselves give each other presents, etc. But it’s not a holiday, there is no Christmas break, December 25 is a working day. But there is a week-long winter break after New Year :D

          Some may be fascinated or curious about Christianity but not to the point of actually becoming a Christian. To them it’s like some club that seems cool but not really their thing.

          (These are just based on my observations, okay? And these comprise just an inkling of the cultural differences between Japanese and Filipinos.)

          • f241vc15 says:

            Yes Buddhism isn’t really a religion per se. Not like the other ‘ism’ religions who have deities giving humans moral codes or compasses.

            And your observations and opinions are very much welcome @Sathepine. Thanks again, and keep them coming. :)

  19. ian says:

    good for you. at least you are different. im talking about the zombies. you should read more on how people are so defensive or aggressive about these newly found so called group. they defend it as if they are talking about pacquiao vs mayweather. anyway, just dropped by to see this site i heard on the radio. cheers everyone. again take it easy (not you again, them).

    • f241vc15 says:

      Oh I see. Thanks for dropping by then, you can always come back anytime. And perhaps you can even tell your friends about this site. :)

      You’d be surprised how variable we non-believers can be. Some are atheists but still believe in ghosts (not me), while some don’t (including me). :)

      • ian says:

        haha i cant imagine that. anyway thanks, its been a good one.

        • f241vc15 says:

          Oh it’s quite easy to imagine actually.

          You see, atheism refers only to the belief/opinion/POV that there is no God. But it doesn’t exclude the fact that that person still believes in fairies or ghosts or what have you.

          Anyway, you’re welcome amigo. :)

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