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	<title>Comments on: Our new logo: What do you think?</title>
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		<title>By: lucius_ferrer</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>lucius_ferrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could we change the color (or just a different shade) of the &quot;THINK&quot; in freeTHINKers?? so that it could really catch the eyes of the viewer? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could we change the color (or just a different shade) of the &quot;THINK&quot; in freeTHINKers?? so that it could really catch the eyes of the viewer?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it. Cheers to you for this new logo! Need no more words to understand it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it. Cheers to you for this new logo! Need no more words to understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it. Congratulations for this new logo! It speaks for itself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it. Congratulations for this new logo! It speaks for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: JC Tejano</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>JC Tejano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good logo, kudos to the guys who made it. As I see it, the logo is neat, fun, and fresh-looking. That perfectly resembles how I see freethinking to be not merely reactionary (anti-theist, anti-church, anti-everything) but proactive (pursuing knowledge and truths, loving life despite, and perhaps in spite of, the absence of an afterlife). Now this may be too biased (sorry, moderate speaking here), but Red solves that bias by making the Is in &quot;filipino&quot; flameless and dotless, attacking the absence of reason in the masses. 
 
I really think this represents us a lot. Great job, woot! :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really good logo, kudos to the guys who made it. As I see it, the logo is neat, fun, and fresh-looking. That perfectly resembles how I see freethinking to be not merely reactionary (anti-theist, anti-church, anti-everything) but proactive (pursuing knowledge and truths, loving life despite, and perhaps in spite of, the absence of an afterlife). Now this may be too biased (sorry, moderate speaking here), but Red solves that bias by making the Is in &quot;filipino&quot; flameless and dotless, attacking the absence of reason in the masses. </p>
<p>I really think this represents us a lot. Great job, woot! <img src='http://filipinofreethinkers.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Tani</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Tani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@wes: yup, told you ;) 
 
@taroogs: from my earlier comment: 
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You will also notice that the Is in &#8220;filipino&#8221; have no dots, and the I of &#8220;freethinker&#8221; not only has a dot but is a flame. At first we did this to &#8220;clean up the clutter,&#8221; as AnnThrop also commented. The fi of &#8220;filipino&#8221; just looks dirty with the dot, and so do the other dots. Some, Frank and Gerald prefer the dots be put back, while others, like AnnThrop and Tin, prefer it out. 
 
I see reasons for and against dots, but what tipped me over to the dotless side was the symbolism: Filipinos are not only flameless (no courage to reason) but dotless (no reason to begin with), and they need Freethinkers to regain their lost flames/dots. (Just thought of this now: Those three dotless Is represent reason, science, and doubting/courage to question. If we spread freethought not only can we help others get their wicks back but help light them as well.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wes: yup, told you <img src='http://filipinofreethinkers.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@taroogs: from my earlier comment:<br />
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You will also notice that the Is in &ldquo;filipino&rdquo; have no dots, and the I of &ldquo;freethinker&rdquo; not only has a dot but is a flame. At first we did this to &ldquo;clean up the clutter,&rdquo; as AnnThrop also commented. The fi of &ldquo;filipino&rdquo; just looks dirty with the dot, and so do the other dots. Some, Frank and Gerald prefer the dots be put back, while others, like AnnThrop and Tin, prefer it out. </p>
<p>I see reasons for and against dots, but what tipped me over to the dotless side was the symbolism: Filipinos are not only flameless (no courage to reason) but dotless (no reason to begin with), and they need Freethinkers to regain their lost flames/dots. (Just thought of this now: Those three dotless Is represent reason, science, and doubting/courage to question. If we spread freethought not only can we help others get their wicks back but help light them as well.)</p>
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		<title>By: taroogs</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>taroogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like it. 
 
just one question, though. why are the &quot;i&quot;s in &quot;filipino&quot; not dotted -- unlike the one in &quot;freethinkers&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like it. </p>
<p>just one question, though. why are the &quot;i&quot;s in &quot;filipino&quot; not dotted &#8212; unlike the one in &quot;freethinkers&quot;?</p>
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		<title>By: wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ur right about the candles, tried photoshopping a variant on that, it came out looking like a dang birthday cake, hehe </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur right about the candles, tried photoshopping a variant on that, it came out looking like a dang birthday cake, hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Tani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Tani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ksw: if we do print another tshirt for our next event, we&#039;ll be sure to reserve one for you :) 
 
@wes: We do have several versions of the logo on different backgrounds (black, gradient, one where the colors are inversed, etc.) This is the most basic form though, so it&#039;s what I showed you first. 
 
Making every i a candle doesn&#039;t work (we tried). And it takes away emphasis from that one lit candle in the word. 
 
About smoothening the top of ff: I like keeping them individual fs because making them big would just make one fat f. and again, that much modification is cheating in my book ;) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ksw: if we do print another tshirt for our next event, we&#039;ll be sure to reserve one for you <img src='http://filipinofreethinkers.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@wes: We do have several versions of the logo on different backgrounds (black, gradient, one where the colors are inversed, etc.) This is the most basic form though, so it&#039;s what I showed you first. </p>
<p>Making every i a candle doesn&#039;t work (we tried). And it takes away emphasis from that one lit candle in the word. </p>
<p>About smoothening the top of ff: I like keeping them individual fs because making them big would just make one fat f. and again, that much modification is cheating in my book <img src='http://filipinofreethinkers.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Tani</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Tani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rhey seuss: thanks! 
 
@joma: in times of peace, when a flag is vertical, blue is on the left. 
 
@wes: the sun would overpower and repeat the theme of the candle, plus with the flag colors adding a sun would be too cliche 
 
@francis: first of all, consider a username change, it&#039;s too hard to type/say/remember ;) And yeah, go free! But, really, I have nothing against HELLvetica, it&#039;s just that in this case, Arial wins. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rhey seuss: thanks! </p>
<p>@joma: in times of peace, when a flag is vertical, blue is on the left. </p>
<p>@wes: the sun would overpower and repeat the theme of the candle, plus with the flag colors adding a sun would be too cliche </p>
<p>@francis: first of all, consider a username change, it&#039;s too hard to type/say/remember <img src='http://filipinofreethinkers.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  And yeah, go free! But, really, I have nothing against HELLvetica, it&#039;s just that in this case, Arial wins.</p>
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		<title>By: wes</title>
		<link>http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/10/14/our-new-logo-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about putting a rising half-sun behind the &quot;ff&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about putting a rising half-sun behind the &quot;ff&quot;?</p>
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