God's Divine Plan

Thanks to Stephanie for pointing out this cool video from The Thinking Atheist. Gave me goosebumps. =)

29 comments

  1. All the comments here only tend to prove what is already known and accepted – that religion and science will never agree on things. While science has made progress in explaining a lot of things (i.e. evolution, why typhoons and earthquakes occur, etc), religion will always stick to its Divine Creator in explaining everything…

  2. This is really a cool place.
    Points and counter points are profound and stimulating.
    I believe in God and such faith fuels my search for more knowledge.
    My faith does not say I should stop using reason.
    So please, If I may, tell me how did you arrive in such conclusion that God does not exist at all?
    You claimed that you're an athiest and so therefore God is non-existent?
    Sounds interesting.

  3. Therefore I am an atheist. I refuse to believe in god, if pressed, well then watch the video again. If you are a christian minister who happens to troll and come across this and is bent on reconverting me then…

    Let us pray…

    .nemA .reve rof dna won
    sruoy era yrolg eht dna ,rewop eht ,modgnik eht roF

    .live morf su reviled dna
    lairt fo emit eht morf su evaS
    .su tsniaga nis ohw esoht evigrof ew sa
    snis ruo su evigroF
    .daerb yliad ruo yadot su eviG
    .nevaeh ni sa htrae no
    ,enod eb lliw ruoy
    ,emoc modgnik ruoy
    ,eman ruoy eb dewollah
    ,nevaeh ni rehtaF ruO

    Because I am done with worshiping anything or anyone.

  4. Let's not argue about god, some believe in him, while some of us doubt his existence. All existing religion in this world use this fallacious or imaginary belief that no one could fathom or question the non existing, of its existence, and call him GOD.

  5. Yes, He has own reasons why did allow those things to happen.come on dude, he's the creator.does not the Creator have a right over His Creation?

    What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?
    What if he wants these people to know the importance of worshiping HIm?
    What if He wants to depopulate the earth?
    All things wok together for His good and Sovereign purpose.
    And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory.
    Things happen because God allowed it.

    • Your ideas about God are full of assumptions. You like to invent MYTHS of what you want God to be. You like to twist the definition of God for your own fantasies.

  6. @ Alvin

    God has reason for typhoons? What is his reason??? to kill people? LOL. So im pretty sure that you also earthquakes happen because god has reason for it, now let me ask you something, there have been earthquakes all over the world, could you tell me what possibly be the reason god summoned an earthquake in Chile which took thousands of lives? and because of that earthquake it made Chile plunged even more, so did God never wanted chile to prosper???

    Alvin, shit happens. Period. Its how the earth is working, this calamities have been happening millions of years ago, the real reason is, people in chile was in the bad place in the wrong time.

    • dick huh?? What dick? how big?? Hey there you can't kick me out, ive been here for quite a while.why should I disprove anything about G/god? can you disprove them?
      LOVE? ok state your definition of LOVE…at least an intellectual definition of love, not the usual "love is blind" thingy.

    • We respect Free speech and have no censorship over here. Evidence of someone's irrationality or mistakes are best left for everyone to observe and interpret. It motivates us to see our own flaws, check ourselves, as well as plainly see the where a particular flaw or divergence originated.

      Even the trolls are useful in emphasizing that there are those out there that are irrational and want to attack the confidence of your rational assertions.

      I might sound harsh, but Alvin is welcome to exercise his rights, but free-speech is not without its consequences.

      If people do not agree and find his arguments irrational, criticize them and point out the flaws let the record show. How else can we learn our own flaws if we don't have a feedback mechanism or a way to see where our strategy failed.

      If it results to name calling, then we can trace the origin of the thought and what caused the reaction.

      A Stubborn and Deluded stance takes rational arguments off the table, and provoking is a way to double check if the person is actually READING and trying to comprehend the argument. Once you have his attention, repeat introduction of rational argument… but alas the same stubborn result.

      Censorship if any should be left to preventing spam and other disruptive activities.

      (beginning with an erroneous premise still counts as irrational despite how logical one will follow conclusions)

      • exactly justin.
        I think we have an agreement here….
        also as a theist, I really want to know what you atheists really think.what we do here is "to learn", to check and double-check, and putting our thoughts on the table.
        well, I must submit that most of you are really bright, and some of you are really commendable when it comes to intellect, but only to some.

  7. hahaha you just proven yourself to be irrational.There's nothing to explain with God because you have nothing in your mind to explain God.Man is a rational being, yes that's true, but man's rationality has limits.
    I'm a rational being.

  8. Yes my mind is simple.Very simple Let me give you one simple test to verify the simplicity of my simple mind…try this question:
    1.I am thinking right now, what is it that I'm thinking?
    If you can't answer this question accurately, then your mind is as simple as mine.Goodluck.

    Isa pa, can you really handle reason and science? I doubt. If you can, then explain to me "GOD", "man", "Universe".

  9. (edited version)
    I made a lot of typos…sorry.

    I agree, they are called “natural calamities”. Nobody is controlling them? So they just “poof” into existence?
    Well you may say that they developed from LPA’s into Typhoons.
    I say that they are a part of God’s plan.God caused them to exist.

    Asteroid did NOT wipe out the dinasaurian race (I think I just coined a word), well in fact they continue to exist until the middle ages. I’m not quite sure about this, but I think my friend NESSIE is one the survivors. Here’s his address:

    The Street Down Under
    Loch Ness, Scotland
    United Kingdom

  10. I agree, they are called "natural calamities". Nobody is controlling them? So they just "poof" into existence?
    Well you may say that they developed from LPA's into Typhoons.
    I say that they are a part of God's plan.God caused them to exist.

    Asteroid did wipe out the dinasaurian race (I think I just coined a word), well i fact they continue to exist until the middle ages. I'm not quite sure about this, but I think my friend NESSIE is one the survivors. Here's his address:

    The Street Down Under
    Loch Ness, Scotland
    United Kingdom

  11. ^ Thanks for the good laugh. You effectively simplified the universe by making this "god" character the reason for everything that has ever happened. How convenient. I would have hoped that you could have realized quicker that your reasoning should be at least at an acceptable level before posting here.

  12. @ Alvin : Ondoy and Peping are natural calamities. The reason why it occurred because it is part of nature, that's why its called natural calamities/disasters in the first place. Before mankind spawned in this planet, these typhoons, floods, and tsunamis already existed.

  13. Positivism??

    GOD remains invisible to the reprobates, disbelievers and confessing atheists. The things of God are spiritually discerned. No amount of Human reason can ever fathom God's plans. There's none that seeks God. Man has no access, no point of entry, to the eternal, transcendent realm.
    Modern Thinkers have wrestled on this: How do we make sense out of all the particulars that we encounter in our lives?
    We saw the devastation of ONDOY and PEPING in our country, what could be the reason why it occurred?

    • They don't just poof or anything, alvin, it happens when cold and warm fronts converge, thus creating a low, that's when typhoons happen. God is not controlling physics, it's the same as, a falling airplane with no engine can't be saved by god.

      IF and only if, snow reaches the philippines (which is not natural, obviously, I hope you know this and that you are not just some 10-year-old), will I believe that god played a role in our "natural" phenomena.

      • Careful what you say bro. When the next "Snowball Earth" event happens (and it will), does that mean you'll believe in god? 🙂

        Kidding aside, ballares is showing exactly why so many people believe in "miracles". It's mostly out of ignorance.

    • ps, No amount of human reason can ever fathom God's "plans"; then why are you, as a normal human, speak about gods "plans" as if you have his cellphone number.

      btw, I'd like to ask you something.

      The bible told us that god is real; and god was the one who wrote the bible. That's an argument in circles, which is a fallacy; is god a fallacy, then?

      • if a question about god, or of his being, or of the simple inconsistencies of his badly written book, cannot be answered; there is mysterious ways, there is no one can fathom what god has in mind.

        but if points out another person is a sinner, different, immoral, uneducated, or whatever negatives; if it is used to HATE, believers are 100% sure with imagined facts that god hates those people with a vengeance.

      • I don't have his cellphone number bro. the Bible is just clear that God controls everything. He is the Absolutely Sovereign God. It is a BIBLICAL claim.
        I said NO AMOUNT of human reason can ever fathom God's plan, yes, I must remain consistent with that claim. I'm not telling you that i know everything about GOD. I'm telling you a little of what I know about GOD.everything that occurs is a part of GOD's plan.

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