Comments on: Spare the Rod and SAVE the Child http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/09/25/spare-the-rod-save-the-child/ A fellowship of atheists, agnostics, deists, humanists, skeptics, and freethinkers in the Philippines and around the world. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:30:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: supportRHbill http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/09/25/spare-the-rod-save-the-child/comment-page-1/#comment-572 supportRHbill Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:09:02 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=616#comment-572 i suppose you weren't spanked when you were a child red? "but he who loves him is careful to discipline him"-that quote is the wisdom in it. spank your child but be wise enough to not abuse him. in my family and relatives, we were mostly spanked when we did something wrong and we turned out smarter and more disciplined later in life. i wonder why.... i suppose you weren't spanked when you were a child red? "but he who loves him is careful to discipline him"-that quote is the wisdom in it. spank your child but be wise enough to not abuse him. in my family and relatives, we were mostly spanked when we did something wrong and we turned out smarter and more disciplined later in life. i wonder why….

]]> By: f241vc15 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/09/25/spare-the-rod-save-the-child/comment-page-1/#comment-571 f241vc15 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:03:48 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=616#comment-571 I must say however that I'm still quite skeptical as to how results and findings are arrived at in some areas of social sciences, including this one. It's usually hard to pinpoint that something causes that/those things, even with hundreds or even thousands of experiment participants are involved. Lots of factors, such as the fidelity of the participants to their answers, their emotional and psychological states, and so on. What I'm getting at here is that what seems to be apparently causal i.e. less spanking = higher IQ and the opposite is true, may not be so at all. These things could in fact merely be correlated, and not causally related. Imagine if someone where to say that one's IQ is linked to the size of his/her feet, since after all most humans get smarter from childhood to adulthood, in the same manner as their feet grow in size. In other words, I'm trying to promote a more skeptical and free outlook of researches, their implementation, and their results. Not trying to antagonize anybody. :) Perhaps I should write a post about this in the future, here and in my blog, and how it relates to irrational beliefs and so on. I must say however that I'm still quite skeptical as to how results and findings are arrived at in some areas of social sciences, including this one. It's usually hard to pinpoint that something causes that/those things, even with hundreds or even thousands of experiment participants are involved. Lots of factors, such as the fidelity of the participants to their answers, their emotional and psychological states, and so on.

What I'm getting at here is that what seems to be apparently causal i.e. less spanking = higher IQ and the opposite is true, may not be so at all. These things could in fact merely be correlated, and not causally related. Imagine if someone where to say that one's IQ is linked to the size of his/her feet, since after all most humans get smarter from childhood to adulthood, in the same manner as their feet grow in size.

In other words, I'm trying to promote a more skeptical and free outlook of researches, their implementation, and their results. Not trying to antagonize anybody. :)

Perhaps I should write a post about this in the future, here and in my blog, and how it relates to irrational beliefs and so on.

]]> By: Twin-Skies http://filipinofreethinkers.org/2009/09/25/spare-the-rod-save-the-child/comment-page-1/#comment-570 Twin-Skies Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:36:05 +0000 http://filipinofreethinkers.org/?p=616#comment-570 What the study did not cover - but I'd like to see more data for - is how excessive spanking contributes to today's overachievers. Both Jackie Chan and late Michael Jackson, for example, attribute their success to abusive mentors; MJ via his father, and Jackie by way of his Chinese Acrobatics instructor when he and Sammo Hung were still students. What the study did not cover – but I'd like to see more data for – is how excessive spanking contributes to today's overachievers.

Both Jackie Chan and late Michael Jackson, for example, attribute their success to abusive mentors; MJ via his father, and Jackie by way of his Chinese Acrobatics instructor when he and Sammo Hung were still students.

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